Motorola MTH800 Tones for PD785

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Motorola MTH800 Tones for PD785

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Does anybody know how to set the tones on a Hytera PD785 to sound like the Motorola MTH800 tones?

I'm not sure what the programming software would look like in the Motorola MTH800 tone sound settings but in the Hytera sound settings there are numbers that you change to make your own sound tones.

So this is what the sound tone setting look like on the Hytera. I want to make some tones to sound like the Motorola MTH800 on my Hytera PD785.
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From an Anytone 868:
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Jus curious as to why u want yer radio to sound like an MTH800?
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I believe its the Motorola Nextel Chirp Sound I'm looking for. Its also the same sound tone on Zello the one I really want. I did some google searches and found some values to input in the Hytera PD785 software of various Motorola sound tones, most of them just sound like a series of clicks when played back where as others just sound much like the Hytera's default tones so it might not be possible to do on the Hytera radios, I know that Hytera radios can't do certain sound frequencies, I'll have to play about and experiment a bit with the values. The Sepura tones are the only ones that really work on the hytera radios so far.
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LeakyFeeder wrote: 16 Nov 2019, 20:53 Jus curious as to why u want yer radio to sound like an MTH800?
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LeakyFeeder wrote: 16 Nov 2019, 20:53 Jus curious as to why u want yer radio to sound like an MTH800?
Everybody wants that tone on there DMR radios its very popular. I just generally love the sound of that tone.
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Werthers wrote: 17 Nov 2019, 13:29
LeakyFeeder wrote: 16 Nov 2019, 20:53 Jus curious as to why u want yer radio to sound like an MTH800?
Everybody wants that tone on there DMR radios its very popular. I just generally love the sound of that tone.
I dont, i have all the tones "off" on every 1 of my radios.
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I also have the Hamsexy Whackertonez™ disabled on all one of my DMR radio, although I can see tones being useful in a noisy environment (like rogerbeeps on a CTCSS invert silent de-key in a noisy van). I do have the MDC1200/selcall paging function options in analogue mode, it's pretty cool to be able to page someone myself on analogue.

In order to properly whack-it-up, you could get the exact tone spec from the TETRA specification documents which are all available freely online. That'd let you get the exact tones and durations for the various functions. Having seen the documents, I'd have some respect for anyone who manages to find the relevant info and actually pull it off.
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I now have to use an Airwave terminal at work and we have done away with the beebop tones n are now using short plips... tbh i hate the daft plips n such to the point my own DMR (MD380/DP3600) sets have em turned off.
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LeakyFeeder wrote: 23 Nov 2019, 00:06 I now have to use an Airwave terminal at work and we have done away with the beebop tones n are now using short plips... tbh i hate the daft plips n such to the point my own DMR (MD380/DP3600) sets have em turned off.
Isn't that due to just using a different radio model? The old sepura ones seemed to have the "beebop" ones, Motorola radios have always had short ones. There are some newer Sepura SC-20 radios I've seen being used more recently and they might have different tones. Haven't heard any though. I would hope Sepura would have adjusted the tones by now as the old long ones did seem pretty intrusive and annoying.
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I tried the above for the Motorola MTH800 Tone for the Anytone it doesnt sound anything like it , Does anyone have the correct settings for the tone from the Motorola MTH800 beep for the Anytone 868/878
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The TETRA spec is available here. Somewhere, one of these documents should have the exact tone specifications for the various functions. Download them, do a text search for something like "alert" "audible" or "tone" etc until you find them. By doing this, you will have the exact frequency, duration, etc for the noises. It's a bit extreme, but if you want the secret sound effects you have to put the effort in...
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Alert tones are not part of the Tetra specification, but are manufacturer specific.. The same goes for trunking and encryption..

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Metradio wrote: 06 May 2020, 19:21 Alert tones are not part of the Tetra specification, but are manufacturer specific.. The same goes for trunking and encryption..

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Thanks, I didn't know that. I would have thought the tones would be the same to aid user familiarity with the system, but I've never used any Tetra stuff for longer than about 5 mins!

So, it looks like the only way to reverse-engineer the tones would be to run a sample tone into a frequency counter or guess it, then work out the duration based on known durations of sample tones. I did a similar thing to a CRT2000 to emulate the cheesy 446 roger beeps, so it can be done but it's a lot of effort.
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Anyone managed to find those beeps from mth800?
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