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New 0fcom rulez

Post by NiCdeth » 24 Mar 2015, 01:24

I just got my new-IMPROVED licence through the email and a few interesting things have struck me which could make the Foundation™ licence even better:

foundation licensees can (theoretically) work on 135kHz, according to Table A on p16;

Said licensees can also do remote operation (part 10(6) p9), as long as the remote link works either in Table A (above 30MHz, note G, p14), OR using public links (cough446) that are suitable and adequately secured (note F, p14). I knew those non standard FeduWaShing CTCSS tones were there for a reason!

More generally, encryption can be used to impersonate help category 1 or 2 responders.

edit to remove non-bizarre 0fcom catch
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Re: New 0fcom rulez

Post by Road_Hog » 24 Mar 2015, 07:13

Oh great, that means another 24 pages to print out to stick with the licence.

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Post by M6UCW » 24 Mar 2015, 08:28

Don't think you need to print them all out as the licence is only the first pages, the rest are the terms and conditions and you only need to have your licence.

I got the email yesterday - didn't read much as I have no clue what the changes were - would have been better to highlight changes.

But as I now have a 2E0 I don't use my M6 - is it worth keeping I wonder? It's only connected to a DMR MARC radio ID but even that I have requested to be updated.
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Re: New 0fcom rulez

Post by pterodaktyl » 24 Mar 2015, 09:06

NiCdeth wrote:In traditional 0fcom style though, there is a bizarre catch: You have to be contactable by phone anywhere you operate (note X, p22). This is weird, because 0fcom don't have my phone number, nor might the other station I could be speaking to...so what's going on with that? Also, this means you CANNOT operate legally if the phones go down. Hmmm.
Only applicable to operation in the 5MHz band, as is the whole of Sched. 1 Note G. I assume it's so you can be contacted easily if you cause interference with a Primary user on the band. It's been carried across from the NoV which was previously required to operate on 5MHz, which asked for a telephone number to be entered as part of the application process. Anyone who manages their licence through the Ofcom online system should have a telephone number associated with their licence, not sure about those still on a paper licence though. The strange bit is that it doesn't specify that the telephone in question be the one for which you've provided a number!

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Re: New 0fcom rulez

Post by pterodaktyl » 24 Mar 2015, 09:09

M6UCW wrote:I got the email yesterday - didn't read much as I have no clue what the changes were - would have been better to highlight changes.
You should have received a letter or email from Ofcom which detailed each change to the licence wording. If you didn't, the summary of the changes is here: http://licensing.ofcom.org.uk/binaries/ ... nnex_A.pdf

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Post by NiCdeth » 24 Mar 2015, 10:20

pterodaktyl wrote:
NiCdeth wrote:In traditional 0fcom style though, there is a bizarre catch: You have to be contactable by phone anywhere you operate (note X, p22). This is weird, because 0fcom don't have my phone number, nor might the other station I could be speaking to...so what's going on with that? Also, this means you CANNOT operate legally if the phones go down. Hmmm.
Only applicable to operation in the 5MHz band, as is the whole of Sched. 1 Note G.

That's what eagerly posting at 1:24AM does! I thought that part didn't fit somehow.

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Post by takara » 24 Mar 2015, 12:07

M6UCW wrote:Don't think you need to print them all out as the licence is only the first pages, the rest are the terms and conditions and you only need to have your licence.
Not according to this:-

17(2) The Licence consists of Section 1 and Section 2 (which includes Schedule 1 and Schedule 2) together with the notes thereto, as any of them may be varied from time to time.

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Post by M6UCW » 24 Mar 2015, 12:45

Oh well. I have both mine in the shed - the M6 is an older copy but then is it worth me printing +20 pages.
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Post by Road_Hog » 24 Mar 2015, 13:32

takara wrote:
M6UCW wrote:Don't think you need to print them all out as the licence is only the first pages, the rest are the terms and conditions and you only need to have your licence.
Not according to this:-

17(2) The Licence consists of Section 1 and Section 2 (which includes Schedule 1 and Schedule 2) together with the notes thereto, as any of them may be varied from time to time.
Yep, it says that you must print out the other part off (it's quite specific, not mentioning a pdf copy, but printing) and keep it together with the licence. From memory the whole thing is 24 pages, your licence being the first two.

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Re: New 0fcom rulez

Post by Transwarp » 24 Mar 2015, 21:19

I ain't printing nothing off. Ofcom sent it to me as a PDF doc, so if any of their officials ever visit me and want to see my licence they can either plug mem stick I've downloaded onto into their tabs or laptops and read it, or they can use my PC to look at it. :problem:

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Post by kr0ne » 24 Mar 2015, 22:10

Transwarp wrote:This is the digital document age, the paperless office, save the planet's resources and all that. ;)
Ah yes, recycling paper and reducing usage - the sure fire way to ensure that forests are no longer economically viable!

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Post by Macman » 19 Apr 2015, 06:30

M6UCW wrote:Don't think you need to print them all out as the licence is only the first pages, the rest are the terms and conditions and you only need to have your licence.

I got the email yesterday - didn't read much as I have no clue what the changes were - would have been better to highlight changes.

But as I now have a 2E0 I don't use my M6 - is it worth keeping I wonder? It's only connected to a DMR MARC radio ID but even that I have requested to be updated.

Strange, I haven't had any communication from them but perhaps they haven't gotten round to us Welshman yet. I've read the Offcom document though, there are some handy little tweaks if you can filter read the thing, not reading 24 pages of wibble though :D
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Re: New 0fcom rulez

Post by Road_Hog » 19 Apr 2015, 18:21

Macman wrote:
M6UCW wrote:Don't think you need to print them all out as the licence is only the first pages, the rest are the terms and conditions and you only need to have your licence.

I got the email yesterday - didn't read much as I have no clue what the changes were - would have been better to highlight changes.

But as I now have a 2E0 I don't use my M6 - is it worth keeping I wonder? It's only connected to a DMR MARC radio ID but even that I have requested to be updated.

Strange, I haven't had any communication from them but perhaps they haven't gotten round to us Welshman yet. I've read the Offcom document though, there are some handy little tweaks if you can filter read the thing, not reading 24 pages of wibble though :D
When did you get your licence?

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Post by andymuza » 19 Apr 2015, 18:49

Macman wrote:Strange, I haven't had any communication from them but perhaps they haven't gotten round to us Welshman yet. I've read the Offcom document though, there are some handy little tweaks if you can filter read the thing, not reading 24 pages of wibble though :D
Make sure you haven't had an email go into your junk folder from Ofcom, mine did.
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Re: New 0fcom rulez

Post by Road_Hog » 19 Apr 2015, 20:02

Well, I never received an email, but I wasn't too bothered about it, as it's their responsibilty to inform me of any changes.

Just went to see my licence and conditions, to see if I could spot that it had been changed online, only to find my licence is blank - none of my details on it at all.

Me thinks a call to OFCOM is on order tomorrow.

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