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New PMR446 channels?

Posted: 07 Mar 2017, 10:08
by albrecht
Any idea when the extra channels may be legal?

Re: New PMR446 channels?

Posted: 09 Mar 2017, 11:22
by radiosification
What new channels? I haven't heard anything about any new channels. I had a quick search on google and didn't see anything either

Re: New PMR446 channels?

Posted: 09 Mar 2017, 12:29
by paulears
I saw an advert a couple of months ago for (I think) dPMR in the band - but it referred to being able to access 8 new frequencies. I suspect it's just sales spin that as there were 8 frequencies before, an extra 8 new ones are available, without mentioning there are two in each old 12.5KHz slot.

Re: New PMR446 channels?

Posted: 09 Mar 2017, 12:58
by danny1990
If you mean the DMR channels from 446.000 to 446.200 the draft was approved july 2015 and will go ahead to be released on 1st january 2018

Analogue will have 8 channels
DMR will have 16 channels
dPMR will have 32 channels

You can read more about it here: http://www.erodocdb.dk/docs/doc98/offic ... ec1505.pdf

Re: New PMR446 channels?

Posted: 09 Mar 2017, 13:07
by paulears
The fact this is missing from OFCOM's site makes me wonder if due to Brexit, it will be implemented here? It's a Euro-decision, so will it or won't it become law here?

Re: New PMR446 channels?

Posted: 09 Mar 2017, 13:13
by danny1990
Yeah i was thinking the same as we are not fully out of europe yet so i think it will still go ahead.

I remember seeing a document on ofcoms website ( Which appears to have vanished ) that talked about the band being expanded but i can't seem to find it anymore the only document that i can find on ofcoms website that mentions it is https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/ ... ons-15.pdf

Re: New PMR446 channels?

Posted: 10 Mar 2017, 18:22
by delboyonline
danny1990 wrote:If you mean the DMR channels from 446.000 to 446.200 the draft was approved july 2015 and will go ahead to be released on 1st january 2018

Analogue will have 8 channels
DMR will have 16 channels
dPMR will have 32 channels

You can read more about it here: http://www.erodocdb.dk/docs/doc98/offic ... ec1505.pdf

Analogue will have 16 channels:

"CEPT administrations shall designate the band 446.0-446.2 MHz for the use of analogue PMR 446
with a channel plan based on 12.5 kHz spacing where the lowest carrier frequency is 446.00625 MHz"


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MORE HERE: http://delboyonline.blogspot.co.uk/p/pmr446.html

Re: New PMR446 channels?

Posted: 10 Mar 2017, 18:37
by paulears
Has somebody tinkered with that? The notion of a calling channel is totally alien to the original purpose of the band, very short range, peer to peer - NOT a CB type allocation. I've never seen an OFCOM document with a 'children's channel' - as it's completely unregulated and designed to be. Where has this calling channel come from? That suggests OFCOM/CEPT have totally changed their view. Nobody needs a calling channel to talk to the same small group of people?

Re: New PMR446 channels?

Posted: 10 Mar 2017, 21:01
by Admiral
PMR446AnalogueBandplan_zpslbkqput4.jpg

Re: New PMR446 channels?

Posted: 11 Mar 2017, 13:54
by radiosification
paulears wrote:Has somebody tinkered with that? The notion of a calling channel is totally alien to the original purpose of the band, very short range, peer to peer - NOT a CB type allocation. I've never seen an OFCOM document with a 'children's channel' - as it's completely unregulated and designed to be. Where has this calling channel come from? That suggests OFCOM/CEPT have totally changed their view. Nobody needs a calling channel to talk to the same small group of people?
Those comments are not official designations. They are only comments added by a private individual.

Re: New PMR446 channels?

Posted: 11 Mar 2017, 13:59
by delboyonline
paulears wrote:Has somebody tinkered with that? The notion of a calling channel is totally alien to the original purpose of the band, very short range, peer to peer - NOT a CB type allocation. I've never seen an OFCOM document with a 'children's channel' - as it's completely unregulated and designed to be. Where has this calling channel come from? That suggests OFCOM/CEPT have totally changed their view. Nobody needs a calling channel to talk to the same small group of people?
Channel 8 was esablished as a calling channel for 'serious' PMR446 operators over 15 years ago. It is of course no more official than channel 19 on the UK40 or 27.555 SSB....!

Re: New PMR446 channels?

Posted: 12 Mar 2017, 00:39
by nay27uk
Admiral wrote:PMR446AnalogueBandplan_zpslbkqput4.jpg

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Ha Ha love this and it is so true.

CH 1 through 6 is business here but every weekend on CH 1 are some high pitched kids.
CH 2 here is some shop ladies clothing and shoes.
Ch 3 some lorry lads at the depot.
CH 4 Is Sport Direct.
CH 5 some more lorry lads at a depot.
Ch 6 some company.

the rest are clear

Re: New PMR446 channels?

Posted: 12 Mar 2017, 00:40
by nay27uk
nay27uk wrote:
Admiral wrote:PMR446AnalogueBandplan_zpslbkqput4.jpg
Ha Ha love this and it is so true.

CH 1 through 6 is business here but every weekend on CH 1 are some high pitched kids.
CH 2 here is some shop ladies clothing and shoes.
Ch 3 some lorry lads at the depot.
CH 4 Is Sport Direct.
CH 5 some more lorry lads at a depot.
Ch 6 some company.

the rest are clear

Re: New PMR446 channels?

Posted: 12 Mar 2017, 00:40
by nay27uk
Admiral wrote:PMR446AnalogueBandplan_zpslbkqput4.jpg
Image
Ha Ha love this and it is so true.

CH 1 through 6 is business here but every weekend on CH 1 are some high pitched kids.
CH 2 here is some shop ladies clothing and shoes.
Ch 3 some lorry lads at the depot.
CH 4 Is Sport Direct.
CH 5 some more lorry lads at a depot.
Ch 6 some company.

the rest are clear

Re: New PMR446 channels?

Posted: 12 Mar 2017, 10:37
by thelad
I always use 5 or 7 as they are dead most of the time.