High Power use of PMR446
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Re: High Power use of PMR446
This is the problem... for a while we had a great thing going. We were able to use 5W handies for mobile comms with non licensed mates while out and about and nobody really noticed or cared.
Now we have people using 50W and up, campaigns to re-brand PMR446 as the "Unofficial UHF CB Radio System" and folks hell-bent on getting as many people as possible using illegal power on the band whether they need to or want to - or have the faintest idea what they are doing!
Naturally this has now attracted the attention of the regulator, who appears to be taking an interest.
Talk about p1ssing on your chips!
Now we have people using 50W and up, campaigns to re-brand PMR446 as the "Unofficial UHF CB Radio System" and folks hell-bent on getting as many people as possible using illegal power on the band whether they need to or want to - or have the faintest idea what they are doing!
Naturally this has now attracted the attention of the regulator, who appears to be taking an interest.
Talk about p1ssing on your chips!
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Re: High Power use of PMR446
Actually i quite like the acidic taste, .....................but how do you know i am not an ofcom official just on here to wind you up and get reaction just to keep me in a job, self creation so to speak , after all it happens all the time in industry, look at anti virus where would norton be if there where no virus? so who do you think write many of the virus?
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Re: High Power use of PMR446
And the police pays people to riot, fire service pays people to set fires and ambulance service pays people to injure themselvesBogget wrote:Actually i quite like the acidic taste, .....................but how do you know i am not an ofcom official just on here to wind you up and get reaction just to keep me in a job, self creation so to speak , after all it happens all the time in industry, look at anti virus where would norton be if there where no virus? so who do you think write many of the virus?
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Re: High Power use of PMR446
Well, statements like this are a bit of a giveaway:Bogget wrote:how do you know i am not an ofcom official
:crazy: Bogget wrote:look at anti virus where would norton be if there where no virus? so who do you think write many of the virus?
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Re: High Power use of PMR446
.....i love it on here, next youll be telling me the moon isnt made of cheese
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Re: High Power use of PMR446
Didn't ofcom relax the rules on fixed antennas for PMR446?
If ofcom have taken away that fixed antenna rule, what difference is it going to make using a yagi or bunging out a few watts?
I'm sure ofcom have got bigger fish to fry rather than spying on some individuals with 4w radios on PMR446
I'd strongly advise those to stay away from LPD433 and stick to 446.
If ofcom have taken away that fixed antenna rule, what difference is it going to make using a yagi or bunging out a few watts?
I'm sure ofcom have got bigger fish to fry rather than spying on some individuals with 4w radios on PMR446
I'd strongly advise those to stay away from LPD433 and stick to 446.
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Re: High Power use of PMR446
Ofcom couldn't relax the rules on something that's an eu standard and as far as I can tell from people that have been busted in Leicester the fixed antenna rule is still there.
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Re: High Power use of PMR446
A Yagi is a directional antenna.StormShadow wrote:what difference is it going to make using a yagi or bunging out a few watts?
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Re: High Power use of PMR446
I think they allow non fixed antennas as long as the gain is still below a certain number that the ERP stays below 0.5W.
So if you have a yagi with a gain of 9dB, then your radio will have to put out some tiny amount of power like 10mW. (Didn't calculate that, its just a guess at the power)
So if you have a yagi with a gain of 9dB, then your radio will have to put out some tiny amount of power like 10mW. (Didn't calculate that, its just a guess at the power)
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Re: High Power use of PMR446
Thats the impression I was under.radiosification wrote:I think they allow non fixed antennas as long as the gain is still below a certain number that the ERP stays below 0.5W.
So if you have a yagi with a gain of 9dB, then your radio will have to put out some tiny amount of power like 10mW. (Didn't calculate that, its just a guess at the power)
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Re: High Power use of PMR446
Only 50w ? Hmmm QRP aint fir me...
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Re: High Power use of PMR446
Actually its 83mw in order to produce an erp of roughly 500mw ( 0.5/6) and also the field strength would be an awesome 0.5vm at a distance of 10 metresradiosification wrote:I think they allow non fixed antennas as long as the gain is still below a certain number that the ERP stays below 0.5W.
So if you have a yagi with a gain of 9dB, then your radio will have to put out some tiny amount of power like 10mW. (Didn't calculate that, its just a guess at the power)
My understanding is that the erp must not exceed 500mw but that the aerial should also be monopole so in order to get unity gain it would need to be something like a quarter wave gp or a small dipole
However the advantage of being able to mount the aerial on a pole at height would still make a significant difference in range
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Re: High Power use of PMR446
LinuxBogget wrote:Actually i quite like the acidic taste, .....................but how do you know i am not an ofcom official just on here to wind you up and get reaction just to keep me in a job, self creation so to speak , after all it happens all the time in industry, look at anti virus where would norton be if there where no virus? so who do you think write many of the virus?
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Re: High Power use of PMR446
I dunno... all the info about PMR446 seems to be all to sketchy for my liking and hell I don't dare use 50w on 446 maybe 4w buts thats all I'd do. I'm deleting all 446 channels from my radios and I'm just gonna stick to 70cm's from now on, on the UHF side of things. It ain't worth getting caught out tbh. Don't get me wrong I love the idea of 446 but until things become official I'm staying away from 446 just to be on the safe side. Ofcom are targeting Ham radio operators in particular.