long range commecial freqs ?

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long range commecial freqs ?

Post by gmham » 29 Dec 2012, 16:47

Guys, on a flight from tenerife to edinburgh the other day we were advised that the pilot had received reports from scottish control that there was possibly going to be bad weather comming back into edinburgh ( nothing new there then and yes it was a bit scary at times !! :shock: ) now this message was received several hundred miles prior to landing and we were still obviously at a fair old height, question is what long range freqs would be used for covering commerical flights for this type off conversation before the local edinburgh atc would take over ??

would flights from the likes off tenerife etc be likely to speak back to the uk whilst still in spain ??
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Post by marcusabacus » 29 Dec 2012, 17:13

Could have listened to a Volmet like Shanwick on HF 5.616mhz, 8.879mhz both USB etc or had a phonecall from his wife :lol:
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Post by Minus1 » 29 Dec 2012, 17:31

Several hundred miles is no big deal, usual to pick up high level aircraft 250 miles away if you have line of sight reception.

And don't forget that Scottish Control covers an area as far south as the line between the Mersey & Humber (170 miles south of Edinburgh).

Plus aircraft heading into that area are often transfered to Scottish a fair distance distance before they actually get to the boundary.
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Post by gmham » 29 Dec 2012, 19:34

Okay cheers appreciatte the info guys, quick reminder off the freq for scottish control ?
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Post by marcusabacus » 29 Dec 2012, 20:18

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Post by Glamdring » 30 Dec 2012, 10:08

Long range frequencies not required. At Scottish Control they have planning displays that list all the airfield TAFs and METARs. The guys at London Control will also have this info and the controllers in Spain are only a phone call away ;)
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Post by Minus1 » 30 Dec 2012, 11:00

gmham wrote:Okay cheers appreciatte the info guys, quick reminder off the freq for scottish control ?
Here is my list, not all confirmed personally. Question marks indicate uncertainties.

118.77500 AM EGPX Scottish ATC Upper? (>FL245) "29 Trent" sector? ^Preston^
119.52500 AM EGPX Scottish ATC (Trent <FL245)
119.87500 AM EGPX Scottish Information (not 24h)
121.32500 AM EGPX Scottish ATC SE — North Sea (Humber sector?)
121.37500 AM EGPX Scottish ATC (Galloway N — STCA outbound via TRN and DCS primary) ^LowtherHill^
123.77500 AM EGPX Scottish ATC (Antrim sector?) NI Irish Sea Lower?
124.05000 AM Scottish Military?
124.50000 AM EGPX Scottish ATC Central (Tay East Low?)
124.82500 AM EGPX Scottish ATC (Galloway S — STCA outbound via TRN and DCS secondary) ^LowtherHill^
125.10000 AM Scottish ATC ?
125.67500 125.68 AMn EGPX Scottish ATC Upper (Irish Sea / Rathlin East sector?)
125.95000 Scottish ATC ?
126.30000 AM EGPX Scottish ATC (Talla South — STCA inbound) ^LowtherHill^
126.92500 AM EGPX Scottish ATC Upper (SE) (Montrose South sector?)
127.27500 AM EGPX Scottish ATC West Low / Information / NW ^LowtherHill^
128.05000 AM EGPX Scottish ATC (Manchester, Irish Sea) (<FL245) Wallasey sector
128.62500 rptd Scottish ATC standby
128.67500 AM EGPX Scottish ATC (<FL245)
129.10000 AM EGPX Scottish ATC Upper West (Rathlin West sector?)
129.22500 AM EGPX Scottish Information NE,Orkney,Shetland (Moray sector?)
130.97500 AM EGPX Scottish TMA (Talla North — Inbound via TWEED and LANAK)
132.49166 132.49 AM EGPX Scottish ATC (Montrose North High?)
132.72500 132.73 AMn EGPX Scottish ATC (West) (Central High sector?)
133.05000 AM EGPX Scottish ATC. Irish Sea <FL245 Isle of Man sector
133.20000 AM EGPX Scottish ATC Upper (West Coast standby?) Hebrides
133.67500 AM EGPX Scottish ATC Upper (Hebrides sector)
133.80000 AM EGPX Scottish ATC East Low (Manchester, EGNX Dep)
133.87500 AM EGPX Scottish ATC NE (Moray / East Coast standby?)
134.30000 AM Scottish Mil (ICF North)
134.42500 AM EGPX Scottish ATC (South, Staffa sector) (<FL245) ^Kelsall^
134.47500 AM Scottish Military/ATC? DEFUNCT?
134.77500 AM EGPX Scottish ATC E (Tyne sector? — North Sea)
135.52500 135.53 AMn EGPX Scottish ATC Upper Pennines (Dean Cross S) ^LowtherHill^
135.85000 135.855 AM EGPX Scottish ATC Upper (Dean Cross N sector?) ^LowtherHill^
135.92500 AM EGQQ Scottish Military (ICF South, Pennines)
136.57500 AM EGPX Scottish ATC (Upper <FL245) ^Preston^
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Post by phillmobile » 02 Jan 2013, 20:52

All big planes have hf radios

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Post by RadioNerdz » 02 Jan 2013, 22:40

phillmobile wrote:All big planes have hf radios
^ Yes, long haul aircraft especially those crossing the Atlantic are fitted with HF sets. A station in Ireland monitors, relays and controls Atlantic HF.

http://www.iaa.ie/index.jsp?p=104&n=193

Had a talk from an ATC Watch Manager (Gatwick, now Heathrow) - VERY interesting!!!

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Re: long range commecial freqs ?

Post by proflight2000 » 17 May 2013, 21:23

A few years ago when I had my yupi 7100 and a long wire I used to listen to Concorde and others using the Gander sector before they flew the east route back to the UK.

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