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Re: SkyArrow 250

Post by UGLY_BOB » 04 Sep 2010, 16:52

So... have any of the boffins I mailed the schematic to come up with a 'clarifier' opening / K/c shift mod yet ? :idea:
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Re: SkyArrow 250

Post by UGLY_BOB » 01 Oct 2010, 12:30

Richard has forwarded me some notes and ideas on opening the clarifier...
You know the drill... If you want a copy, PM me an e-mail address... PM's won't support .pdf's .

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Re: SkyArrow 250

Post by Ashtec » 15 Feb 2011, 00:11

I was just thinking about this radio the other day bob has any one done the mod to the opening of clarifier so the radio can work on the uk frequences...........................

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Re: SkyArrow 250

Post by UGLY_BOB » 15 Feb 2011, 15:48

Not yet... Tim was going to try it on his... but he's a busy man ;)
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Post by Ashtec » 16 Feb 2011, 01:15

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Re: SkyArrow 250

Post by Ashtec » 29 Mar 2011, 21:02

Here's aother radio that look's the same as the SkyArrow 250

Ferris - CB 8000

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Re: SkyArrow 250

Post by Ashtec » 29 Mar 2011, 21:31

Can any one help us with the 'clarifier' opening / K/c shift mod....................

Ive been given information as you can see but i whant to know what you think on this as well before i get playing.......

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Re: SkyArrow 250

Post by RD250 » 01 Apr 2011, 11:04

Hi Paul
I read the text above and there's couple of things that I don't fully agree with.

The trimpot highlighted as (1) sets a threshold for audio ALC on TX mode and has nothing to do with the clarifier.

The schematic readability is poor due to the quality of the copy but the clarifier voltage comes from the Rx arm of the relay (the relay switches the regulator output to either Tx only or Rx only circuits)

On Tx it simply connects to the Tx only side of the relay and uses fixed resistors to set the clarifier voltage. The back to back diodes marked as (2) provide isolation to stop the two sides pulling each other.

The clarifier is fed from the common Rx side of the relay so I expect the clarifier to work in AM/FM as well?

I agree with the basic instructions above as to how to mod/unlock it though. eg how to alter the circuit to unlock it but I don't think it will offer much tuning range.

Because the 10.24MHz oscillator xtal is connected up to the PLL chip it will use an unbuffered biased inverter inside the chip as the active part of the oscillator. Because the clarifier varactors simply alter the shunt capacitance on either side of this then I suspect you will get very limited control range. You could reduce the 22pF caps to get more range but this approach goes against common practice in how these oscillators are meant to be configured.

IMO the existing clarifier on the 10.24MHz PLL osc isn't a good place to start if you want a wide range unlocked clarifier. There is a better way to do this but it might be unrealistic as it would require a little piggy PCB inside the radio. However it would also offer the prospect of 120 channels (maybe more)

NOTE: The voltage regulator circuit looks very unforgiving of short circuits. I'd strongly advise precaution if probing around inside this radio with it switched on. One slight slip of a probe (we've all done this) could toast this regulator. In fact the device chosen appears to be a small NPN transistor. Maybe this is an error on the schematic? This device looks hopelessly underrated and over biased. Not a good regulator IMO.

If you do probe around inside this radio I'd advise running the PSU down at maybe 12V and also set a strict current limit. (that's what I would do)

Can you check what transistor the real radio uses for the voltage regulator? This is the transistor (with 9V? zener) that is located a little below/right of the handwritten text "MODE SWITCH" in the schematic. I'd hope they have swapped this for something beefier...

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Re: SkyArrow 250

Post by mattyboy » 02 Apr 2011, 11:56

here is mine what was ebay Image

this radio looks like its never been used as all boxed packging and all that its mint it as all seals on as well its doing standed power 12 watts ssb 4/5 watts fm/am i put it on this morning and found that it would not transmit on highband but after 10mins warming up it came to life and works good audio a bit quiet and it bang on 12oclock as well...Image
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Re: SkyArrow 250

Post by UGLY_BOB » 03 Apr 2011, 00:15

Matty... audio a bit quiet ? Do you mean TX or RX ? I found the standard mic was a bit of poo... but with a quality power-mic it was great.
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Re: SkyArrow 250

Post by mattyboy » 03 Apr 2011, 09:17

on tx but it sorted now :D
mass dx 5000 v4
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wilson 2000 moble antenna

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Re: SkyArrow 250

Post by Ashtec » 06 Dec 2012, 13:24

Dose any one know what IF these radios are running on at all

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Re: SkyArrow 250

Post by smokescreen » 06 Dec 2012, 14:15

Could you not check whats printed on that filter?

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Re: SkyArrow 250

Post by Ashtec » 08 Dec 2012, 04:32

I've not got one yet to get a look at the xtal filter i know were a few are.

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Re: SkyArrow 250

Post by smokescreen » 08 Dec 2012, 18:01

Sorry, I guessed you had one.

Well looking at the schematic, I will stick my neck out and say 11.275MHz 1st IF and 455KHz second...

The local osc for the 2nd mixer is 11.730MHz, - 455kHz = 11.275MHz and this matches up with the SSB osc

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